Items - Rod of discord in grapple slot (2024)

Timey-Whimy

The Destroyer
  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #1

Small Qol idea, what if you could put the rod of discord/harmony in your grappling hook slot so you can have a hotkey for it.

they act like grappling hooks anyway

Orchamut

The Destroyer
  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #2

This would be nice, sure, but it would definitely affect game balance and I really don't think the Rod of Discord needs to be any stronger.
It's way more powerful than every hook and I think needing to swap to it in your hotbar for a moment is a good handicap as it is.

I could get behind giving this functionality to the Rod of Harmony on the other hand (but with some way to justify it, I mean sticking a staff into your hook slot is kind of weird). Since it's post-Moon Lord, the Rod of Harmony seems to be intended to be used as a more convenient navigation tool, so I don't think it'd hurt anything. If modders wouldn't like that well that's their problem..

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Retinazer
  • Jun 6, 2024
  • #3

This could be fair because youd be sacrificing your grapple hook

Green_Metaknight

The Destroyer
  • Jun 7, 2024
  • #4

Orchamut said:

This would be nice, sure, but it would definitely affect game balance and I really don't think the Rod of Discord needs to be any stronger.
It's way more powerful than every hook and I think needing to swap to it in your hotbar for a moment is a good handicap as it is.

I could get behind giving this functionality to the Rod of Harmony on the other hand (but with some way to justify it, I mean sticking a staff into your hook slot is kind of weird). Since it's post-Moon Lord, the Rod of Harmony seems to be intended to be used as a more convenient navigation tool, so I don't think it'd hurt anything. If modders wouldn't like that well that's their problem..

Maybe the Hook of Dissonance could have a Post-Moonlord upgrade that works like the RoH but in a hook slot?

Dapling

Duke Fishron
  • Jun 7, 2024
  • #5

Rod of Discord is balanced by having to switch to it before use.
However, it's actually not that strong in vanilla anyway due to being straight up unnecessary or unhelpful for every enemy's attack patterns in the entire game except Moon Lord, so I actually don't think that's a major problem.
It might be a problem in modded attacks where RoD is more practical, but modded content should not be taken into consideration when balancing.

Brunoaraujoespin

Terrarian
  • Jun 7, 2024
  • #7

Hook of dissonaince

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Retinazer
  • Jun 7, 2024
  • #8

Brunoaraujoespin

Terrarian
  • Jun 7, 2024
  • #9

Benry Gaming #FixTF2

Retinazer
  • Jun 7, 2024
  • #10

Brunoaraujoespin said:

But it’s close

Not really. The hook can't go through walls and can be obtained much much easier.

chewythebigblackdog

Terrarian
  • Jun 7, 2024
  • #11

The other thing about the hook of dissonance is that it halts all of your momentum when you use it (which is why I prefer a "normal" grappling hook), and the rod of discord does not.

Big Sammich

Duke Fishron
  • Jun 7, 2024
  • #12

Dapling said:

However, it's actually not that strong in vanilla anyway due to being straight up unnecessary or unhelpful for every enemy's attack patterns in the entire game except Moon Lord, so I actually don't think that's a major problem.
It might be a problem in modded attacks where RoD is more practical, but modded content should not be taken into consideration when balancing.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here. Rod of Discord is the strongest item in the game. It's a get out of jail free card for just about every scenario. The number of situations in which Rod of Discord can't help is practically zero. Especially if you're playing on higher difficulties, where it becomes even stronger due to it often doing less damage to you when spammed than whatever attack you were hoping to avoid.

Orchamut

The Destroyer
  • Jun 7, 2024
  • #13

Honestly I agree that, for many players, the Rod of Discord isn't the most helpful thing in combat, but I would think the reason for this is how you need to switch from your main weapon to use it. This means you need to think it out in advance (even if it's just one second of delay), which isn't always useful as many foes in the game have unpredictable attack patterns and combat in Terraria tends to be more reactionary.
Changing its use to a hotkey would make it as simple and thoughtless as a dash, which would likely have a pretty big impact.

Bobosaurus

Terrarian
  • Jun 9, 2024
  • #14

Timey-Whimy said:

Small Qol idea, what if you could put the rod of discord/harmony in your grappling hook slot so you can have a hotkey for it.

they act like grappling hooks anyway

If you want a hotkey, hotkey the hotbar slot your rod is in and just hotkey then click

R

random terraria fan

Terrarian
  • Jun 16, 2024
  • #15

there is already a hook that can teleport puting it in the grapple slot would weaken it becos you cant target location just direction also its not realy a hook

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Retinazer
  • Jun 17, 2024
  • #16

random terraria fan said:

there is already a hook that can teleport

Not the same thing

R

random terraria fan

Terrarian
  • Jun 17, 2024
  • #17

Benry Gaming #FixTF2 said:

Not the same thing

true but it would end up being since the toggle doent have good aim so youd have to ether tp as far as possible or just to the nearest wall or be insainly presise

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Retinazer
  • Jun 17, 2024
  • #18

random terraria fan said:

true but it would end up being since the toggle doent have good aim so youd have to ether tp as far as possible or just to the nearest wall or be insainly presise

Sorry, but I have no clue what you are talking about

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random terraria fan

Terrarian
  • Jun 17, 2024
  • #19

to aim the grappling hook that little thing is very small and hard to do precise movements which makes sense becos with grappling hooks you just have to point but with rod youd just end up having no aim this is on mobil btw

Green_Metaknight

The Destroyer
  • Jun 17, 2024
  • #20

random terraria fan said:

to aim the grappling hook that little thing is very small and hard to do precise movements which makes sense becos with grappling hooks you just have to point but with rod youd just end up having no aim this is on mobil btw

I found that an effective way to aim grappling hooks on Mobile is by turning the grapple button into a joystick.

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